{"id":11217,"date":"2024-11-13T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-11-13T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.k12.com\/?page_id=11217"},"modified":"2024-11-12T14:41:49","modified_gmt":"2024-11-12T14:41:49","slug":"transforming-american-schools-michelle-rhees-vision-for-education-reform","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.k12.com\/advice-tips-inspiration\/podcasts\/wiwtk-podcast\/transforming-american-schools-michelle-rhees-vision-for-education-reform\/","title":{"rendered":"EP. 168: Transforming American Schools \u2013 Michelle Rhee\u2019s Vision for Education Reform"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-section container-fluid bg-color-sky-light\n\t\ttext-black padding-4\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 px-mobile-0\">\n<div style=\"height:1px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" id=\"top\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-display-titles container\"><div class=\"row no-wrap\"><div class=\"col-12 d-flex g-0 flex-column align-items-left\"><div class=\"d-flex tag align-items-center\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"60\" height=\"60\" src=\"https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/icon-Book-open-4.svg\" alt=\"image (name )\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-6838 img-fluid\"><p>November 13, 2024<\/p><\/div><h2 class=\"display \">EP. 168: Transforming American Schools \u2013 Michelle Rhee\u2019s Vision for Education Reform<\/h2><div class=\"d-flex flex-mobile-column w-mobile-100\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-content-block container\"><div class=\"row no-wrap\"><div class=\"col-7 sort-mobile-1 mb-mobile-4 align-self-center hidden-sm\"><div class=\"youtube-player video has-play-btn\"><button class=\"youtube-player__play-btn\" data-video-play=\"A_HSfof0BqI\"><svg width=\"43\" height=\"43\" viewBox=\"0 0 43 43\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M36.5238 6.47623C32.6775 2.62998 27.365 0.25 21.5 0.25C15.635 0.25 10.3225 2.62998 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src=\"https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_YouTube_Thumbnail-MichelleRhee.png\" alt=\"Youtube Video\" class=\"wp-image-11220 img-fluid rounded full-width\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_YouTube_Thumbnail-MichelleRhee.png 1920w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_YouTube_Thumbnail-MichelleRhee-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_YouTube_Thumbnail-MichelleRhee-1024x576.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_YouTube_Thumbnail-MichelleRhee-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_YouTube_Thumbnail-MichelleRhee-1536x864.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"youtube-player__embed sr-o\"><img class=\"youtube-player-embed\" data-uuid=\"A_HSfof0BqI\" data-v=\"4\" data-type=\"lightbox\"\/><\/div><\/div><p class=\" \">While the pandemic has pushed schools to embrace technology, experts believe the fundamental transformation in American education is still needs to be made.<br><br>The numbers speak for themselves. Public school leaders across the nation estimated that 32% of students finished the 2023\u20132024 school year below grade level in at least one subject.<br><br>We\u2019re left with some big questions as we\u2019ve entered a new school year. What changes do we need to see in education? How do we close the gap between where we are now and where we need to be? And most importantly, how do we build schools that truly get our kids ready for the future?<br><br>In this episode, Michelle Rhee joins Kevin to discuss the future of education, how technology fits in, and ways we can better prepare our children for a changing world.<\/p><div class=\"buttons\"><div class=\"btn-primary  \"><a href=\"\/advice-tips-inspiration\/podcasts\/wiwtk-podcast\/\">View All Episodes<\/a><\/div><button class=\"youtube_player_button play\" data-video-play=\"A_HSfof0BqI\" type=\"button\" aria-label=\"Play video\"><\/button><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"youtube-embed hide-embed\" data-uuid=\"A_HSfof0BqI\"><div class=\"youtube-close-container\" aria-label=\"Close Player\" role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" data-uuid=\"A_HSfof0BqI\"><div class=\"youtube-close-x\"><\/div><\/div><div><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/A_HSfof0BqI\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-section container bg-color-sky-light\n\t\ttext-black  has-margin-top pt-0 pb-0\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 px-mobile-0\">\n<!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-11217-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/chrt.fm\/track\/EG6995\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/media.blubrry.com\/1470463\/traffic.libsyn.com\/whatiwanttoknow\/Michele_Full_edit.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/chrt.fm\/track\/EG6995\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/media.blubrry.com\/1470463\/traffic.libsyn.com\/whatiwanttoknow\/Michele_Full_edit.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/chrt.fm\/track\/EG6995\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/media.blubrry.com\/1470463\/traffic.libsyn.com\/whatiwanttoknow\/Michele_Full_edit.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-display-titles container mt-5\"><div class=\"row no-wrap\"><div class=\"col-12 d-flex g-0 flex-column align-items-left\"><p class=\" \">Listen on:\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/what-i-want-to-know-with-kevin-p-chavous\/id1561682450\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcast<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5KkzBkzDhmQB8VNrDtP3BF\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/strong><\/p><div class=\"d-flex flex-mobile-column w-mobile-100\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-section container-fluid bg-color-white\n\t\ttext-black  has-margin-bottom has-margin-top pt-0 pb-0\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 px-mobile-0\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-section container bg-color-white\n\t\ttext-black  reduced-padding-bottom pt-0 pb-0\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 px-mobile-0\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-grid col-14 d-flex g-0 flex-column align-items-center\" style=\"grid-template-columns:repeat(4, 1fr)\">\n<div style=\"order:0\" class=\"wp-block-k12-grid-cell bg-color-white\n\t\ttext-black\n\t\t hidden-sm\" data-grid-row=\"0\" data-grid-stripe=\"odd\">\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"order:100\" class=\"wp-block-k12-grid-cell bg-color-white\n\t\ttext-black\" data-grid-row=\"0\" data-grid-stripe=\"odd\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center mb-0\"><strong><strong>Follow us on:<\/strong><\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"order:200\" class=\"wp-block-k12-grid-cell bg-color-white\n\t\ttext-black\" data-grid-row=\"0\" data-grid-stripe=\"odd\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center mt-0 mb-0\"><strong><strong><strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/wiwtkpodcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8216\" style=\"width: 60px; 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As head of Washington D.C. Public Schools from 2007 to 2010, Michelle made bold, sometimes controversial changes that got people talking nationwide. Later, she started StudentsFirst, a non-profit dedicated to transforming education.<\/p><\/div><div class=\"col-7 sort-mobile-1 mb-mobile-4 align-self-center hidden-sm\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1932\" height=\"932\" src=\"https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_SL-Insights-PodcastCard-Thumbnail-1932x932-MichelleRhee.png\" alt=\"EP. 168: Transforming American Schools \u2013 Michelle Rhee\u2019s Vision for Education Reform\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-11221 img-fluid rounded full-width\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_SL-Insights-PodcastCard-Thumbnail-1932x932-MichelleRhee.png 1932w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_SL-Insights-PodcastCard-Thumbnail-1932x932-MichelleRhee-300x145.png 300w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_SL-Insights-PodcastCard-Thumbnail-1932x932-MichelleRhee-1024x494.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_SL-Insights-PodcastCard-Thumbnail-1932x932-MichelleRhee-768x370.png 768w, https:\/\/www.k12.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/WIWTK_SL-Insights-PodcastCard-Thumbnail-1932x932-MichelleRhee-1536x741.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1932px) 100vw, 1932px\" \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-tab-content\"><div data-tab=\"1\" class=\"tab-content tab-content-hidden\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-section container-fluid bg-color-hint\n\t\ttext-black padding-4  has-margin-top pt-0\"><div class=\"row\"><div class=\"col-12 px-mobile-0\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-k12-display-titles container\"><div class=\"row no-wrap\"><div class=\"col-12 d-flex g-0 flex-column align-items-left\"><p class=\" \"><strong>Michelle Rhee:<\/strong>\u00a0You have these truly remarkable kids growing up in an environment where they weren\u2019t getting great schooling, and then their life chances and life outcomes were associated with that\u2014and the opposite happening in private schools. And it just seemed unfair to me, wholly unfair.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: While the pandemic has certainly pushed schools to embrace technology, experts believe the real transformation in American education is still missing. The numbers speak for themselves. Public school leaders across the nation estimate that 32 percent of students finish the 2023-2024 school year\u2014<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: It\u2019s tough. You know, I\u2019m not going to lie because of the broader political environment that exists right now. I think that it\u2019s very different from back in my day, where there was still some bipartisan work going on where around education issues, Democratic and Republican lawmakers and states would come together and say, \u201cYeah, we sort of agree with these.\u201d<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: What changes do we need to see in education? How do we close the gap between where we are now and where we need to be? And, most importantly, how do we build schools that truly get our kids ready for the future? This is what I want to know. Joining us today is Michelle Rhee, a well-known voice in education reform.<br><br>As head of the Washington, D.C. Public Schools from 2007 to 2010, Michelle made bold, sometimes controversial, changes that got people talking nationwide. Later, she started Students First, a nonprofit dedicated to transforming education. She\u2019s here to talk about the future of education, how technology fits in, and ways we can better prepare our children for a changing world.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: Michelle, welcome to the show.<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: Thank you for having me, Kevin.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: I don\u2019t want to sound too formal because we know each other so well, and I\u2019m such a big fan of who you are, but I really appreciate you coming on. And there\u2019s so much to unpack with not just your work, but more importantly, Michelle, and again, I know you, your commitment to children. Why did this whole idea of what we\u2019re doing to help our kids learn\u2014why and how did it resonate so much?<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: So, I grew up very privileged, to be honest. My father was a physician. We lived in Toledo, Ohio. I went to great schools, both public and private. And one of the things that I realized when I was young\u2014well, first of all, everybody who knows me well will tell you that I like kids way more than I like adults.<br><br>The idea that you have these truly remarkable kids growing up in an environment where they weren\u2019t getting great schooling, and then their life chances and life outcomes were associated with that. And the opposite happening in private schools, and it just seemed unfair to me, wholly unfair. And so it inspired me to be really kind of compelled by this idea of how we fix the public education system. And probably also some of that was driven by the fact that my parents were immigrants to this country. Education was the most important thing. We talked about it all the time.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: And let\u2019s talk about going past the New Teacher Project when you became Chancellor of D.C. Public Schools, which you\u2019re probably most known for. As you know, we had a couple of common folks in terms of Adrian Fenty, who used to be on my staff, and he was the one who hired you and Joe Klein and others.<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: I mean, I had been running the New Teacher Project for 10 years before that. And we worked with all of the large urban school districts across the country. And honestly, it was oftentimes very frustrating work because we\u2019d be like, \u201cOh my gosh, why won\u2019t the superintendent do this?\u201d Or why won\u2019t they decide what initiatives they\u2019re going to have six months ahead of time so that we can understand what shuffling is going to happen so that we can hire teachers earlier?<br><br>So I had all kinds of things that I wished superintendents were doing, and I thought, this is the chance to do the things that Michelle, you said you wished superintendents would do. And to do that with the support of Adrian, which just can\u2019t be overstated. I mean, his political sort of courage and will really was the game-changing factor in all this.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: I do want you to talk briefly about your takeaways from that experience. And then I want to go into a little bit of the politics. But looking back, what are some of the big sort of lessons learned, if you will, from your experiences as D.C. Chancellor?<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: Let\u2019s see. I\u2019d say one was just the fact that communication matters so much. You know, I was super naive when I took that job and I very much thought, \u201cOh, well, you just put your head down, work really hard to produce results, and then people are going to love the results.\u201d And what we totally missed the mark on was the fact that if you\u2019re not messaging and talking to people consistently about what we\u2019re doing and why\u2014right over and over and over again\u2014your message, the narrative, can get co-opted. It can be established for you unless you\u2019re out there proactively beating that drum.<br><br>And so that\u2019s something that we absolutely failed on\u2014we did not do that particularly well. That was one lesson, I think. And another was just the fact that we had the luxury of having all of the stars aligned. We had an incredibly supportive and visionary mayor who was then putting the resources of the entire city towards what we were doing.<br><br>We had philanthropic support. We had the very unique sort of city-state dynamic. So our mayor was essentially the mayor and the governor. And I think because all of that was set up in such a unique way, people often misunderstand the difficulties involved in implementing policies\u2014not just the policy in and of itself, but this teacher\u2019s union contract or this pay schedule, this teacher evaluation. You can do that theoretically like the policy can be made, but at the end of the day, whether or not it\u2019s going to impact kids in a positive way all comes down to whether it can be executed and implemented well. And I think that is something that people often just under-appreciated.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: Today, Michelle, kids still are not able to maximize their potential in most of America\u2019s schools.<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: So I just joined a venture firm called Equal Opportunity Ventures, or EO Ventures. And so we invest in startups that have a service or a product that we believe is, in the long run, going to help economic and social mobility.<br><br>So obviously, education innovations are a place that I\u2019m really heavily pushing. And I think that you know, I\u2019ve been doing this job for three months now. And what I will say is that to be honest, I had become very jaded as it pertained to what we can accomplish in public education over the next 20 years, given the last sort of 30 years of my experience.<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: I sort of got to that place where I was like, I don\u2019t know if we\u2019re ever going to be able to fix this in a way that ensures that all kids can get a great education. And now in this seat, I am in the incredibly fortunate position where every single day I get to talk to founders who have an idea about how they can make the system better. And it\u2019s fascinating. It\u2019s everything from companies that are taking processes that, to your point, have run the same way over and over again for years and decades and have just sucked up so much time and energy.<br><br>And they\u2019re like, \u201cHere\u2019s this technology tool that can make your life way more efficient and better,\u201d because it makes\u2014this particular company that I\u2019m thinking about does master scheduling\u2014way easier for schools. So things like that just make certain processes more efficient, to other founders who are really thinking outside the box about how they can both either work within the system or outside the system.<br><br>To really give parents choice, to give kids more agency, to provide more resources and supports around such important topics like mental health. And in seeing all of that, I have a renewed sense of hope and confidence that we are going to be able to change the game in education because there are just so many people out there who are thinking in incredibly innovative ways.<br><br>And I think that this space can allow those entrepreneurs to make a difference and to help a system. Because the way that public education systems are set up right now, it\u2019s not a hotbed for innovation. But if you can have folks externally sort of pushing in, in partnership with school districts, I think there\u2019s real potential here.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: This is my last question along those lines. Michelle, this is what I really want to know: when you think about all the various policymakers, stakeholders, parents, communities\u2014people come at the education sort of challenge from so many different and varied positions. What would you say to them in terms of this understanding that we just mutually achieved in terms of what\u2019s possible from a practical point of view?<br><br>What would you say to them who remain skeptical because they have these various lenses? Parents are skeptical, folks on the Republican side are skeptical, Democratic side, union\u2014but what would you say to them that would serve to help bring us together from a \u201cwhat is possible\u201d point of view?<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: I do. It\u2019s so hard these days because I think the country is polarized. Absolutely it is.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: That\u2019s why someone like you needs to opine on this because we are divided. And this is the one area where we should begin the building blocks for unity building.<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: I agree. I think that\u2019s exactly right. But it\u2019s tough, you know, I\u2019m not gonna lie because of the broader political environment that exists right now. I think that it\u2019s very different from\u2014now I feel like an old person\u2014but when I say \u201cback in my day,\u201d where there was still some bipartisan work going on, where around education issues, Democratic and Republican lawmakers and states would come together and say, \u201cYeah, we sort of agree with these points.\u201d<br><br>I think in that environment, it is tough to figure out what are the mechanisms through which we can all sort of come together and unify. But if there is one thing that potentially could drive that, wouldn\u2019t it be what is good and right for kids? And I think instead of just each political party staking out, \u201cWell, this is what we think is good for kids,\u201d if we could really sort of ground ourselves in the data and these are the kinds of innovations, approaches, strategies, curricula that are producing results and equalizing the playing field\u2014can we all agree on how those are measured and then hold ourselves accountable as adults to ensuring that we\u2019re spending money and time and effort on the things that we know matter the most for kids?<br><br>That\u2019s what I would hope. And the other thing I\u2019d say is, I have the good fortune of oftentimes being able to go and speak. I speak at Harvard and Stanford Business School and different places. And I will say that anytime I talk to the next generation of reformers, I always say like my generation couldn\u2019t figure this out, but it\u2019s up to you all. And I think they have an optimism and a sense of what needs to happen to kind of bridge the polarized dialogue that is happening right now. I think that, combined with these incredibly courageous souls who are taking the leap into entrepreneurship and innovation\u2014with those two things combined, I think that hopefully, the next 20 years in the education space will look very different.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: Well said. Michelle Rhee, my dear friend, thank you so much for joining us on What I Want to Know.<br><br><strong>Michelle Rhee<\/strong>: Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure as always.<br><br><strong>Kevin P. Chavous<\/strong>: Thanks for listening to What I Want to Know. Be sure to follow and subscribe to the show on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app, so you can explore other episodes and dive into our discussions on the future of education and write a review of the show. I also encourage you to join the conversation and let me know what you want to know using hashtag WIWTK on social media. That\u2019s hashtag WIWTK. For more information on Stride and online education, visit stridelearning.com. I\u2019m your host, Kevin P. Chavous. 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